Comments on: The Fine Line Between Clever And Stupid http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/ Little boxes made of words, by Jens Alfke Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:32:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Joachim Bengtsson http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2629 Joachim Bengtsson Mon, 19 May 2008 10:05:41 +0000 http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/#comment-2629 Ack, you evil you! The second I get my hands on this, I will rip out the network code I have in my current game and replace it with this :P Now I just need a very fast and simple Prolog parser... :P Ack, you evil you! The second I get my hands on this, I will rip out the network code I have in my current game and replace it with this :P Now I just need a very fast and simple Prolog parser… :P

]]> By: Jens Alfke http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2628 Jens Alfke Thu, 15 May 2008 17:25:50 +0000 http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/#comment-2628 Ilan — Whatever code I write, that I end up using for this purpose, will be open source. If I don't use Vortex, I don't want to open-source my wrapper classes because I won't be using or maintaining them; but I'd be fine with giving them to someone else to open-source. Ilan — Whatever code I write, that I end up using for this purpose, will be open source.

If I don’t use Vortex, I don’t want to open-source my wrapper classes because I won’t be using or maintaining them; but I’d be fine with giving them to someone else to open-source.

]]> By: Ilan Volow http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2627 Ilan Volow Thu, 15 May 2008 16:27:50 +0000 http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/#comment-2627 I started writing a pure Python implementation of BEEP back when I was a member of my school's Xgrid club and we were trying to write/reverse engineer a multi-platform Xgrid client. It remember thinking that it was kind of senseless that Apple did a BEEP protocol implementation and kept it as a private framework. Especially since the other BEEP libraries had sucked back then, and I guess not a lot has changed. Were you planning to make your BEEP code open source? I started writing a pure Python implementation of BEEP back when I was a member of my school’s Xgrid club and we were trying to write/reverse engineer a multi-platform Xgrid client. It remember thinking that it was kind of senseless that Apple did a BEEP protocol implementation and kept it as a private framework. Especially since the other BEEP libraries had sucked back then, and I guess not a lot has changed.

Were you planning to make your BEEP code open source?

]]> By: Dave Smith (dizzyd) http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2626 Dave Smith (dizzyd) Wed, 14 May 2008 20:23:29 +0000 http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/#comment-2626 Ah, how small this world is. I recently implemented a stupid simple version of the features you described, with the difference being that i did provide a simple way to do channels. But yeah, BEEP is a nice idea -- terrible implementation. Not that I'm an expert or anything... :) Ah, how small this world is. I recently implemented a stupid simple version of the features you described, with the difference being that i did provide a simple way to do channels. But yeah, BEEP is a nice idea — terrible implementation.

Not that I’m an expert or anything… :)

]]> By: hendrik http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2625 hendrik Tue, 13 May 2008 17:31:51 +0000 http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/#comment-2625 Definitely clever to cut your losses and start over. Writing something new from scratch also tends to be way more fun and satisfying than fighting other people's code. Because sadly other people's code tends to suck. (Your link to source doesn't work but 'liberal use of goto statements' made me shudder). Definitely clever to cut your losses and start over. Writing something new from scratch also tends to be way more fun and satisfying than fighting other people’s code. Because sadly other people’s code tends to suck. (Your link to source doesn’t work but ‘liberal use of goto statements’ made me shudder).

]]> By: Jens Alfke http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2624 Jens Alfke Tue, 13 May 2008 14:52:14 +0000 http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/#comment-2624 Pedro — I've implemented XMPP (aka Jabber) before, as part of the initial iChat prototyping. First, it's a rather inefficient protocol because it's entirely XML. That's expensive to parse, and it's particularly bad at sending binary data because it has to be base64-encoded. Cloudy sends a lot of binary data. Also, XMPP has a lot of built-in client/server assumptions and I don't think it would fit very well into a true P2P implementation. Pedro — I’ve implemented XMPP (aka Jabber) before, as part of the initial iChat prototyping.
First, it’s a rather inefficient protocol because it’s entirely XML. That’s expensive to parse, and it’s particularly bad at sending binary data because it has to be base64-encoded. Cloudy sends a lot of binary data.
Also, XMPP has a lot of built-in client/server assumptions and I don’t think it would fit very well into a true P2P implementation.

]]> By: ullrich.myopenid.com http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2623 ullrich.myopenid.com Tue, 13 May 2008 08:02:14 +0000 http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/#comment-2623 just find it amazing to hear the same word (BLIP in this case) two times a day but in two different contexts. techcrunch just wrote about a "twitter for music" which goes by the name of BLIP too. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/twitter-for-music/ also there's some kind of underground music style which is called "BlipHop". Its an interesting form of HipHop which lies totally apart from that you hear in radio day by day. Long live the BLIP! just find it amazing to hear the same word (BLIP in this case) two times a day but in two different contexts.

techcrunch just wrote about a “twitter for music” which goes by the name of BLIP too. http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/05/12/twitter-for-music/

also there’s some kind of underground music style which is called “BlipHop”. Its an interesting form of HipHop which lies totally apart from that you hear in radio day by day.

Long live the BLIP!

]]> By: Pedro Melo http://jens.mooseyard.com/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2622 Pedro Melo Tue, 13 May 2008 07:50:16 +0000 http://mooseyard.com/Jens/2008/05/the-fine-line-between-clever-and-stupid/#comment-2622 Hi, I wonder, did you look at XMPP? I don't know much about cloudy and what you are trying to do in the end, but XMPP could be an interesting option. It fits your entire criteria. Best regards Hi,

I wonder, did you look at XMPP? I don’t know much about cloudy and what you are trying to do in the end, but XMPP could be an interesting option.

It fits your entire criteria.

Best regards

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